Proof sequence 2 for superimmortality

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Proof sequence 2 for superimmortality

An adequate and useful definition of "proof" for the science of superimmortality will be a complex combination and sequence of experimental evidence and other evidence combined with rational arguments that is coherent with science as a whole.

Imagine flowcharting of these supporting evidences, rational arguments and experiments with diverging supporting evidence, experiments, and rational arguments.


Proof sequence 2 for superimmortality (consciousness)

Close enough approximate structure and functioning of matter produce identical consciousness

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Analogy to TV, computer, production, and experiments From Proof sequence 1 for superimmortality Close enough approximate structure and functioning produce identical behavior .

First experiment argument

Reductio ad absurdum arguments for superimmortality with the original not producing the same consciousness: Assume that there can not be a change in structure and or functioning of the brain without producing a change in consciousness no matter how small. discrete change continuum change

Reductio ad absurdum arguments for superimmortalityfor behavior not reflecting the consciousness and if the consciousness produced by the body does not correspond to behavior produced by the body then the consciousness can be aware of this difference why can't the consciousness produced by the body control the body? This can be if there is a disconnect between the brain's functioning and production of consciousness and body. Most people do not experience this discrepency

When the consciousness produced is different from the behavior produced by the body, the awareness of this difference can cause an avalanche of differing diverging consciousnesses


when other structures and functioning do not produce the same self identity personality memories this is evidence also


Percentage wise different enough structure and functioning of matter produce percentage wise different consciousnesses

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Analogy to TV, computer, production, and experiments


Different enough structure and functioning of matter produce different consciousnesses

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Analogy to TV, computer, production, and experiments

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The variations of the structures and functionings of matter can be mapped to the variations in consciousness

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Structure and functioning of a body is understandable Structure and functioning of the body can be mapped to behavior and to consciousness Because they can be mapped the consciousness produced can be predicted from the structure and functioning of the body

You are the consciousness produced by the body and not the body itself arguments Examples when you are dead your body still exists but there is no "you" also in certain comas, sleep, and with the use of anesthesias and certain drugs You are the consciousness not the body you are the functioning of a material body By changing the structure and functioning of that body you can produce any possible memory, self identity, personality trait, ability, skill, looks,

The same behavior will be produced with any sequence of previous sequence of consciousnesses produced

Simplicity versus complexity argument: The prediction that identical structure and functioning produces identical consciousness is simpler than having the prediction that identical structure and functioning of matter can produce different consciousnesses

Simplicity argument for multiplicity Argument for simplicity for itoextension Simplicity proofs, Simplicity arguments Ixperiencit simplicity mapping argument

First Rational Argument for conscious identity and multiplicity
First Rational Experiment Argument for Identity and Multiplicity of Conscious Existence


Technologically useful versus technologically useless theory

Predictable versus unpredictable argument

Natural versus supernatural argument

You are a body versus you are consciousness argument Immortality of a body Experiencing life from a body's perspective Television analogy for a singular body is you theory

Coherence proofs Coherence arguments coherence Coherence argument Coherence with science argument

Path coherence Argument for coherence for itoextension Coherence argument

The diversity argument where at any point in your life


free will we process the information that we receive and make a decision on this information but with exactly the same conditions we will make the same choice. Very small changes in input or structure can make very large out put changes in behavior and consciousness.

Ability to predict the outcome of experiments Ability to replicate the outcome of experiments Ability to replicate behaviors and thus consciousnesses by way of manipulating the structure and functioning of the bodies Ability to predict behaviors and thus consciousnesses produced by a body based on the structure and functioning of matter of the body Ability to map behaviors and thus consciousnesses produced by a body to the structure and functioning of matter of the body

Ship of Theseus (human body) experiments Can you actually use the Ship of theseus example to determine personal identity? Experiment: Two identically structured and functioning people made of different matter in a different place could be in an experience machine where the environments are identical. All the matter that was in the first one is recycled into the the other one and visa versa so that eventually all the matter in the first on is in the second one and what was in the second one is in the first one personal identity is determined by the matter or the continuity of a body? Why? Now use whole body parts replace a leg, an arm, a head, a liver the intestines etc After all of the body parts are switched who in the original? in both cases body A has the matter of body B and visa versa. In experiment one were could have just exchanged atom by atom and in experiment we could have switched smaller and smaller parts of the body. In case one the body is naturally replacing matter in both no different than if there is no other person to replace it with so in this case the original is still the original even though he no longer contains any of the same matter.

In the second case because the whole brain is switched it would appear that the original is not longer the original at all but the cidentireplica.

we can do another experiment with two live identical structured and functioning brains in a vat and switch brain halves




The matter that is changed and how fast. there must be a point in speed of replacement or amount of matter where the there is the change in self

Problems with continuity and continuousness of the body

They think that there is something different in the cidentireplica than just a different body. TV analogy for the TV versus the shows that is being produced


Proof sequence 3 for superimmortality This is a proof sequence that a cidentireplica will produce the same ixperiencitness as its original is, has, or will, produce.

part one that identical structure and functioning will produce not only identical behavior and consciousness but identical as well ixperiencitness you experiencing that consciousness.

You are not the body but the structure and functioning of the body Argument that there is no need to prove that a cidentireplica such thing as ixperiencitness Experiments with the same body where when you change the structure and functioning to that of some one else they have that behavior and consciousness No longer your self identity memories feelings

Close structure and functioning to other peoples s and f produces their behavior and consciousness not yours

You need the ixperiencitness concept to distinguish between identical consciousnesses Superimmortality does not need the ixperiencitness concept If you are consciousness then

It not the body but the structure and functioning of the body

split body experiments where do you go under these experiments how do we know

singularity bias argument we have a bias for singularity why what is the proof

Your body can exist and you do not exist if the structure and functioning is not right

there is no evidence of a soul

There is no evidence of a physical thing that maintains the self through time change in space Is there a supernatural thing that maintains the self through time

Assimilation of matter arguments speed Replacement of matter experiments Where along a continuum of experiments do you disappear and someone else appears in your body?

What experiments maintain the self through changes in the body and change in consciousness and structure and functioning?

If the creation of you is an experiment what conditions are needed to be repeated in an experiment for the creation of you again and what proof of this is there?

Where is the predictability explainability usefulness in all of these cases? mapping of behavior to structure and functioning to consciousness and ixperiencitness.

The ability to say this body will produce your ixperiencitness under these circumstances and these circumstances will not and then explain why.

How can you even know if a body produces you are not when there is no way to tell the difference between two identically bodies. And you can never know for sure what the history of a body has been in terms of experiences, consciousnesses, that a body that gone through before it has become identical in structure and functioning to a previous state.

If one says that two bodies that produce identical structure and functioning produce identical behavior and consciousness what is the proof that they will not be producing identical ixperiencitness.

Either ixperiencitness exists and is different from consciousness or not. for ixperiencitness to be different from consciousness there has to be the case where there are identical consciousnesses but different ixperiencitness. other wise they are identical where we no longer have to consider ixperiencitness because then when ever there is identical consciousness you will also have identical ixperiencitness. The ixperiencitness can still have use in dividing up consciousness into ixperiencitness groupings.


The percentage wise behavior, consciousness, ixperiencitness and structure and functioning concepts are useful there can be varying degrees of differences between two bodies structure and functioning. These differences in structure and functioning will produce differences in the behavior consciousness and ixperiencitness.

What is the proof that the ixperiencitness concept actually exists? Either you experience the consciousness that is being produced by a body or not. If you do then it has your ixperiencitness if not then it does not have your ixperiencitness. A body can also produce an ixperiencitness that is partially identical to the one you are experiencing now.

Restoration arguments

Where would you be if not here
Singular self bias argument
Singular self perspective argument


Proof sequences list See also: Proof sequences list,

Proof sequence 1 for superimmortality This is a proof sequence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behaviorpath as its original is, has, or will, produce. (Behavior related proofs)
Proof sequence 1a - Identical structures and functionings of matter produce identical behaviors.
Proof sequence 1b - Close enough approximate structures and functionings of matter produce identical behaviors.
Proof sequence 1c - Percentage wise different enough structures and functionings of matter produce percentage wise different behaviors.
Proof sequence 1d - Very different structures and functionings of matter will usually produce very different behaviors.
Proof sequence 1e - The variations of the structures and functionings of matter can be mapped to the variations in behaviors.
Proof sequence 1f - Enhancements to structure and functioning of a body can enhance the behavior produced by the body.


Proof sequence 2 for superimmortality This is a proof sequence is to show that a cidentireplica will produce the same awarepath as its original is, has, or will, produce. (Consciousness related proofs)
Proof sequence 2a - Identical structures and functionings of matter produce identical consciousnesses.
Proof sequence 2b - Close enough approximate structures and functionings of matter produce identical consciousnesses.
Proof sequence 2c - Percentage wise different enough structures and functionings of matter produce percentage wise different consciousnesses.
Proof sequence 2d - Very different structures and functionings of matter will usually produce very different consciousnesses.
Proof sequence 2e - The variations of the structures and functionings of matter can be mapped to the variations in consciousness.
Proof sequence 2f - Enhancements to structure and functioning of a body can enhance the consciousness produced by the body.


Proof sequence 3 for superimmortality This is a proof sequence that a cidentireplica will produce the same ixperiencitness as its original is, has, or will, produce. (Ixperiencitness related proofs)
Proof sequence 3a - Identical structures and functionings of matter produce identical ixperiencitnesses.
Proof sequence 3b - Close enough identity of structures and functionings of matter will produce identical ixperiencitnesses.
Proof sequence 3c - Certain structures and functionings of matter will produce different consciousnesses but will still produce identical ixperiencitnesses
Proof sequence 3d - Percentage wise different enough structures and functionings of matter will produce percentage wise different ixperiencitnesses.
Proof sequence 3e - Very different structures and functionings of matter will produce very different ixperiencitnesses.
Proof sequence 3f - The variations to the structures and functionings of matter can be mapped to the variations in ixperiencitnesses.
Proof sequence 3g - Enhancements to structure and functioning of a body can enhance the ixperiencitness produced by a body.


Proof sequences list, Proof sequence 1 for superimmortality, Proof sequence 2 for superimmortality, Proof sequence 3 for superimmortality, Proof sequence 1a, Proof sequence 1b, Proof sequence 1c, Proof sequence 1d, Proof sequence 1e, Proof sequence 1f, Proof sequence 2a, Proof sequence 2b, Proof sequence 2c, Proof sequence 2d, Proof sequence 2e, Proof sequence 2f, Proof sequence 3a, Proof sequence 3b, Proof sequence 3c, Proof sequence 3d, Proof sequence 3e, Proof sequence 3f, Proof sequence 3g