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Mortalism requires supernatural concepts

From Aware Theory

Mortalism requires that something (the me) is lost at death that is more than just the change in structure and functioning of matter. If what you are is different from a grouping of structures and functioning of matter, then what is it? If it is not supernatural then what is it? It must be something physical that is not just the structure and functioning of matter. For most humans their existence seems to be a moment to moment creation. You are not what your were consciously and you are not what you will be either. When people think of the extension of themselves they think of the extension from this conscious moment not from a past or future conscious moment. An example of this is when people consider the idea of an upload into a computer of themselves, they consider the upload from this moment in time not from a future or past period of time. If such a thing as uploading of your self into a computer was possible then the uploading would have been possible at any point in your life including future points in your life.

The problem with uploading your self is that if there is something that is me that is different from the structure and functioning of matter then how can you upload that me into a computer? If what you are is just matter specific then how do you load that matter specific thing that is you into different matter? Uploading into a computer assumes that you are some form of information processing but if you are information processing why can it not be duplicated in many different computers, thus there is multiplicity of self produced like superimmortality predicts.

What maintains a singular self that can not be physically duplicated or replicated? This is where a paradox seems to come into play. We seem to be a singular conscious being produced by a singular physical body, But physical things are duplicatable and the properties of physical thing can be duplicated. When we imagine replicating the physical body's structure and functioning over a period of time we get the evidence that this replica is producing the same consciousness because the behavior is identical. Mortalists claim that even though the consciousness is the same there has to be something that is physical that make the replica not be able to producing the original's self. The physical differences that we know about between a cidentireplica and it's original are in the differences in space, time, and matter used in their construction. A cidentireplica could be made of the exact same matter in the exact same places as the original and at the same place but would have to exist at a different time. There may or may not be continuousness of the body over this period of time. If there is no continuousness of body then there will not be continuousness of consciousness either. If the original me is lost without continuousness of body what physical thing is lost? If then the original me is lost the replica will act like the original so it will appear to be human thus does it now have a new me that it is producing? where does this new me come from? How can the new replica me be distinguished from the previous original me. If the new replica me can not be distinguished from the previous original me physically then it appears to be a non physical or supernatural entity that is me.


What makes a replica a replica rather than the original. If the replica dies then is anything like the original after that is a replica? If the original is still alive then is another body no matter how identical to the original is only a replica.