Is There Life After Death? - by Deepak Chopra
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This is a response to the You tube video: Is There Life After Death? - by Deepak Chopra @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfwCqj0slog
Superimmortality is a theory of consciousness that is very different from what Deepak Chopra is proposing, which appears to be a form of Hinduism. His theory is a partial, passive, confusing, singular, form of life after death that does not explain how or why there is recycling of the partial self, nor exactly what gets recycled. There is a weird ending to this recycling that we are forced to accept, that of being formless with an eternity of being with a formless god. There is no evidence that this types of life after death exists. There is on the other hand overwhelming evidence for the science of superimmortality.
Deepak Chopra says at
:15 Is there life after death? Yes. I think you have to understand though who is surviving? OK.
Who else but me (or you) are we talking about? If I am not surviving this recycling who is? Is it just a part of me that is surviving through a recycling? Superimmortality predicts that by duplicating the structure and functioning of the body, but specifically the brain, we duplicate the consciousness. If you approximate the structure and functioning closely enough you will still experience the consciousness though the consciousness can be different.
:25 Who are you? If you are the formless void that is constantly experiencing yourself as form. Yes. Your memories your desires your karma shall we call it. And don't get fooled by this word, karma just is input output, right. If I eat a banana my body responds in a certain way. If I have coffee I respond in a certain way. If I ingest a toxin it responds in a certain way. If I am subject to anger or hostility it responds in a certain way. Its input and its out put, that all karma is.
How can a formless void produce consciousness or have input or output? This implies that there is something that can be inside and something that is outside of this formless nothing. If it is formless and a void how can you tell where the dividing line between the formless void on the outside and the formless void on the inside is? Deepak definition of Karma sounds like another name for behavior. You respond to environmental input. This is your behavior. You observe your behavior. You have memories of your behavior. How can a formless void have or produce behavior?
1:02 The input and output that your consciousness experiences creates memories and desires and these memories and desires and the sum of input and output we call karma is what recycles like a spiral in the direction of higher consciousness. The ultimate goal is being one with our source with our god. God is the infinite potential.
Why is the goal being one with our source; god? My goal would be to experience everything positive that I can experience, and with the ability to repeat it. If that is what you mean, why don't you just say that. Being one with the ultimate nothingness --- a formless void seems like being nothing. If god is not the formless void why call him a formless void? Consciousness is already the name for what you experience. superimmortality has better terms there is the way the brain functions over time called the neuropath. The external conditions that effect the body over time is called the externapath. The resulting consciousness produced by the neuropath as it is effected by the externapath over time is called the awarepath.
1:40 The universe is the form that the infinite formless takes. We are like little cells that are recycling in that formless, evolving in this spiral to higher consciousness. So we experience ourselves as physical in the waking state as subtle in our soul consciousness and cosmic consciousness as subtle beings, which are, you know, in all traditions angels and beings and devils and goddesses They are symbolic expressions of the consciousness in the subtle domain as then as formless beings. And there is life after death because everything recycles.
How can something that is infinitely formless have form? And what is the proof of this statement? This kind of statement is what is said when people have no idea what is actually happening in reality.
Restated with behavior replacing the word karma. "Behavior recycles in a spiral the ultimate goal is being one with our source god. God is the infinite potential"
2:28There is nothing in the universe that does not recycle, matter recycles, energy recycles, information recycles, consciousness recycles.
What is the proof of this recycling and spiraling. Why spiraling why not a straight line Why do you have to go through more than one life for this process?
What is being recycled? Is it matter, energy, information, consciousness you? What parts of you are being. If I had a previous life no memories came with me.
Do we experience this recycling process? You are still singular. How do you stop this recycling process?
2:37 Your little part of consciousness is your soul. And so that soul which is the drop in the ocean is also recycling but don't forget that drop in the ocean is also the entire ocean in the drop, you know. So you are the divine ocean that has assumed this drop. Your destiny is to become one with the divine. That's the future of god.
What if you do not want to become one with the divine. What do you experience when you are with the divine? Why would we want to become one with the divine?
There is only the speculation that being with the divine is a positive thing. The divine could just suck the consciousness life out of a person and then the person suffers horribly forever.
You used terms like the form of the formless and the drop that is an ocean and the ocean that is a drop, Maybe the spiral is not up but down into hell and eternal suffering that god revels in. How can you possible know? Maybe god is making us go through the difficult process of recycling becoming better and better so that when we inter his realm he gets even more out of a perfect person when they find out what evilness and suffering he has in store for them. We can make up any kind of story when we do not know what is actually the truth.
How do you tell if this theory is true?
Are there positive consequences of this theory? Partial life after death because you are never the same persons only a few of your conscious aspects are the same. Why is the ultimate goal uniting with the divine? The divine eliminates all other possible conscious experiences. What is wrong with average experiences? What is wrong with learning and thinking and figuring out things? It seems that there is no will but the divine will so you have lost all control of what you can experience? Life with god is a very limited conscious existence. If you say you get to experience everything in the divine then why do you need the divine when you can just experience everything as a conscious being?