Moral applications of multiplicity - Revision history

Mark at 03:19, 5 July 2017

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	There is the concept in ethics of [[the greater good]]. The greater good is a solution to a problem that produces better desired results than one or more other possible solutions. If a person is killed to keep him from doing worse harm to many others it could be considered a greater good to eliminate him as a threat. If death is not permanent then this person's death is not as bad as if it is the finality of his conscious existence. Restoring this person back to conscious life does not mean that it has to be exactly the same person that died. Reproducing the [[ixperiencitness]] of a person does not mean that the evil effects that can be caused by this person needs to be duplicated as well. Lets take Hitler for an example, Any previous point in his life ([[physapoint]]) could be reproduced before he did the bad things that he did and henceforth he could have lived a very different life. Because of multiplicity he actually could have lived many other very different lives at the same time.		There is the concept in ethics of [[the greater good]]. The greater good is a solution to a problem that produces better desired results than one or more other possible solutions. If a person is killed to keep him from doing worse harm to many others it could be considered a greater good to eliminate him as a threat. If death is not permanent then this person's death is not as bad as if it is the finality of his conscious existence. Restoring this person back to conscious life does not mean that it has to be exactly the same person that died. Reproducing the [[ixperiencitness]] of a person does not mean that the evil effects that can be caused by this person needs to be duplicated as well. Lets take Hitler for an example, Any previous point in his life ([[physapoint]]) could be reproduced before he did the bad things that he did and henceforth he could have lived a very different life. Because of multiplicity he actually could have lived many other very different lives at the same time.

	Lets now consider the evil that he did in his life. He was responsible for the death of many people because of the war that he was mostly responsible for, plus he was responsible for the death of many people in concentration camps that were not directly connected to the war. Why were the things he did bad? Because he caused the suffering and end of life for many people. These people had average lives with suffering before Hitler's effect on these people. If he had not of existed they would have experience different lives that would have corresponded to different physapaths producing different [[awarepaths]]. [[The science superimmortality]] predicts that these lives can be recreated in many different ways. What these people experienced because of hitler is just one possible conscious life that is possible for them. That potential does not disappear at the death of their current bodies. What these people experienced because of hitler the war etc., potentially exited before they ever happened. And these terrible experiences, unfortunately, can be recreated again because the [[structures and functionings]] that produced these different experiences are physical phenomena and can be recreated where they will be experienced all over again.		Lets now consider the evil that he did in his life. He was responsible for the death of many people because of the war that he was mostly responsible for, plus he was responsible for the death of many people in concentration camps that were not directly connected to the war. Why were the things he did bad? Because he caused the suffering and end of life for many people. These people had average lives with suffering before Hitler's effect on these people. If he had not of existed they would have experience different lives that would have corresponded to different physapaths producing different [[awarepaths]]. [[The science of superimmortality]] predicts that these lives can be recreated in many different ways. What these people experienced because of hitler is just one possible conscious life that is possible for them. That potential does not disappear at the death of their current bodies. What these people experienced because of hitler the war etc., potentially exited before they ever happened. And these terrible experiences, unfortunately, can be recreated again because the [[structures and functionings]] that produced these different experiences are physical phenomena and can be recreated where they will be experienced all over again.

Mark at 20:24, 4 July 2017

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	[[Mortalists]] believe that the self is tied to the body and when the body dies that is the permanent end to the self. [[Superimmortality]] states that the self is tied to the [[structure and functioning of matter]] which is a property of the body. Properties of things can be identical when the things themselves are not. For example two ball are not identical but they can have identical colors. The [[concept of multiplicity]] is based on the fact that closely identical [[structures and functionings of matter]] will produce the same [[ixperiencitness]] with either the same or variations to the same [[consciousness]]. By restoring the correct sequences of structures and functioning in other bodies the [[original]] person can be restored to [[conscious life]] again any number of times through out space and time. If you can consciously exist again after death it makes a your death not as bad as if it is permanent. [[Multiplicity]] is more than just potential singular extended lives after death for a person. It means that any part and potential version of your life can be recreated again and again not just by one body at a time but by any number of different bodies by producing the one of a very large number of different structures and functioning of matter.		[[Mortalists]] believe that the self is tied to the body and when the body dies that is the permanent end to the self. [[Superimmortality]] states that the self is tied to the [[structure and functioning of matter]] which is a property of the body. Properties of things can be identical when the things themselves are not. For example two ball are not identical but they can have identical colors. The [[concept of multiplicity]] is based on the fact that closely identical [[structures and functionings of matter]] will produce the same [[ixperiencitness]] with either the same or variations to the same [[consciousness]]. By restoring the correct sequences of structures and functioning in other bodies the [[original]] person can be restored to [[conscious life]] again any number of times through out space and time. If you can consciously exist again after death it makes a your death not as bad as if it is permanent. [[Multiplicity]] is more than just potential singular extended lives after death for a person. It means that any part and potential version of your life can be recreated again and again not just by one body at a time but by any number of different bodies by producing the one of a very large number of different structures and functioning of matter.

	There is the concept in ethics of [[the greater good]]. The greater good is a solution to a problem that produces better desired results than one or more other possible solutions. If a person is killed to keep him from doing worse harm to many others it could be considered a greater good to eliminate him as a threat. If death is not permanent then this person's death is not as bad as if it is the finality of his conscious existence. Restoring this person back to conscious life does not mean that it has to be exactly the same person that died. Reproducing the ixperiencitness of a person does not mean that the evil effects that can be caused by this person needs to be duplicated as well. Lets take Hitler for an example, Any previous point in his life could be reproduced before he did the bad things that he did and henceforth he could have lived a very different life. Because of multiplicity he actually could have lived many other very different lives at the same time.		There is the concept in ethics of [[the greater good]]. The greater good is a solution to a problem that produces better desired results than one or more other possible solutions. If a person is killed to keep him from doing worse harm to many others it could be considered a greater good to eliminate him as a threat. If death is not permanent then this person's death is not as bad as if it is the finality of his conscious existence. Restoring this person back to conscious life does not mean that it has to be exactly the same person that died. Reproducing the [[ixperiencitness]] of a person does not mean that the evil effects that can be caused by this person needs to be duplicated as well. Lets take Hitler for an example, Any previous point in his life ([[physapoint]]) could be reproduced before he did the bad things that he did and henceforth he could have lived a very different life. Because of multiplicity he actually could have lived many other very different lives at the same time.

	Lets now consider the evil that he did in his life. He ~~killed~~ many people because of the war that he ~~caused~~ plus he ~~killed~~ many people in concentration camps that ~~was~~ not directly connected to the war.		Lets now consider the evil that he did in his life. He was responsible for the death of many people because of the war that he was mostly responsible for, plus he was responsible for the death of many people in concentration camps that were not directly connected to the war. Why were the things he did bad? Because he caused the suffering and end of life for many people. These people had average lives with suffering before Hitler's effect on these people. If he had not of existed they would have experience different lives that would have corresponded to different physapaths producing different [[awarepaths]]. [[The science superimmortality]] predicts that these lives can be recreated in many different ways. What these people experienced because of hitler is just one possible conscious life that is possible for them. That potential does not disappear at the death of their current bodies. What these people experienced because of hitler the war etc., potentially exited before they ever happened. And these terrible experiences, unfortunately, can be recreated again because the [[structures and functionings]] that produced these different experiences are physical phenomena and can be recreated where they will be experienced all over again.

Mark at 19:02, 4 July 2017

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	Does a god have a right to kill a person if he can restore a person to life at a later date and, or in another place? Does a god have a right to kill a person if he has the ability to restore a person to life after death and promises to do so at some future point in time? Does a god have a right to kill someone if other person's currently exist that has this person's [[ixperiencitness]]? All of ~~thee~~ questions can be applied to a society of person's that have the ability to restore someone to life after death. Current ~~different societies~~ and past different societies have killed people with the belief that there will be a life after death for them.		Does a god have a right to kill a person if he can restore a person to life at a later date and, or in another place? Does a god have a right to kill a person if he has the ability to restore a person to life after death and promises to do so at some future point in time? Does a god have a right to kill someone if other person's currently exist that has this person's [[ixperiencitness]]? All of these questions can be applied to a society of person's that have the ability to restore someone to life after death. Current and past different societies have killed people with the belief that there will be a life after death for them. Others have killed people hoping that they would never again be bothered by them.

			[[Mortalists]] believe that the self is tied to the body and when the body dies that is the permanent end to the self. [[Superimmortality]] states that the self is tied to the [[structure and functioning of matter]] which is a property of the body. Properties of things can be identical when the things themselves are not. For example two ball are not identical but they can have identical colors. The [[concept of multiplicity]] is based on the fact that closely identical [[structures and functionings of matter]] will produce the same [[ixperiencitness]] with either the same or variations to the same [[consciousness]]. By restoring the correct sequences of structures and functioning in other bodies the [[original]] person can be restored to [[conscious life]] again any number of times through out space and time. If you can consciously exist again after death it makes a your death not as bad as if it is permanent. [[Multiplicity]] is more than just potential singular extended lives after death for a person. It means that any part and potential version of your life can be recreated again and again not just by one body at a time but by any number of different bodies by producing the one of a very large number of different structures and functioning of matter.

			There is the concept in ethics of [[the greater good]]. The greater good is a solution to a problem that produces better desired results than one or more other possible solutions. If a person is killed to keep him from doing worse harm to many others it could be considered a greater good to eliminate him as a threat. If death is not permanent then this person's death is not as bad as if it is the finality of his conscious existence. Restoring this person back to conscious life does not mean that it has to be exactly the same person that died. Reproducing the ixperiencitness of a person does not mean that the evil effects that can be caused by this person needs to be duplicated as well. Lets take Hitler for an example, Any previous point in his life could be reproduced before he did the bad things that he did and henceforth he could have lived a very different life. Because of multiplicity he actually could have lived many other very different lives at the same time.

			Lets now consider the evil that he did in his life. He killed many people because of the war that he caused plus he killed many people in concentration camps that was not directly connected to the war.

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Does a god have a right to kill a person if he can restore a person to life at a later date and, or in another place? Does a god have a right to kill a person if he has the ability to restore a person to life after death and promises to do so at some future point in time? Does a god have a right to kill someone if other person's currently exist that has this person's [[ixperiencitness]]? All of thee questions can be applied to a society of person's that have the ability to restore someone to life after death. Current different societies and past different societies have killed people with the belief that there will be a life after death for them.