https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience 2026-05-06T04:18:13Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.8 https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=90866&oldid=prev 2018-03-22T18:52:16Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:52, 22 March 2018</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What is the proof that a [[cidentireplica]] will not have the [[ixperiencitness]] that the [[original]] has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement &quot;A cidentireplica will have the same identical ixperiencitness as does the original me.&quot;,  being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior, consciousness, and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]]. One experimental argument that a cidentireplica will produce the same consciousness as the original that has the same identical structure and functioning is that a [[cidentireplica]] always produces the same behavior as the [[original]] meaning all the same memories, self identity, skills, knowledge, feelings, emotions, [[self reference]], and  [[self beliefs]]. Further evidence is that when the cidentireplica is allowed to diverge from the structure and functioning of the original he still caries this self identity with him. He now can even sometimes remember things that actually happened to the original that the original has forgotten, but because his brain is now functioning differently it can generate different memories than the original can. Many of these memories can be more accurate than the original&#039;s recollection of these memories.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What is the proof that a [[cidentireplica]] will not have the [[ixperiencitness]] that the [[original]] has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement &quot;A cidentireplica will have the same identical ixperiencitness as does the original me.&quot;,  being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior, consciousness, and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]]. One experimental argument that a cidentireplica will produce the same consciousness as the original that has the same identical structure and functioning is that a [[cidentireplica]] always produces the same behavior as the [[original]] meaning all the same memories, self identity, skills, knowledge, feelings, emotions, [[self reference]], and  [[self beliefs]]. Further evidence is that when the cidentireplica is allowed to diverge from the structure and functioning of the original he still caries this self identity with him. He now can even sometimes remember things that actually happened to the original that the original has forgotten, but because his brain is now functioning differently it can generate different memories than the original can. Many of these memories can be more accurate than the original&#039;s recollection of these memories.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Is it emotionally healthy to believe in superimmortality?]]</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What would it be like to have proof of some one coming back to life?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What would it be like to have proof of some one coming back to life?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">See also: [[Atheist Experience videos about life after death]], [[More videos about life after death]],</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[How superimmortality serves you and society]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">See also: [[Beginning arguments for superimmortality]], [[Atheist Experience videos about life after death]], [[More videos about life after death]], </ins>[[How superimmortality serves you and society<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]], [[Is it emotionally healthy to believe in superimmortality?</ins>]]</div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=89625&oldid=prev 2017-03-07T05:28:57Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 05:28, 7 March 2017</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This is a [[superimmortality]] inspired response to the You Tube video "Life After Death Atheist Experience" at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEWztlIteo4</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Either we have an after life or we do not is a passive way of looking at life after death. We do not want to be passive when it comes to achieving a life or lives after death. We often want, and most people seem to believe, that there is something that we can do to improve our chances of achieving an after death life. This is why many people are religious because it gives them something to work toward in this life time. If you do x, y, and z you will go to heaven. Or another example is If you are mummified and placed in a pyramid that you have built etc., you will have an after life. There are all sorts of rituals that cultures has to achieve some form of life after death. In this clip from the Atheist Experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEWztlIteo4, they say there is either an after life or not but there is no evidence that there is an after life so the rational thing to do is to make the most of this life. If there were evidence that certain sets of behaviors producing specific accomplishments increases the likelihood of an after life it might be worth sacrificing some of the better aspects of this life to achieve it. But since there have been proposed numerous ways of producing an afterlife for a person and no proof, why should we waste the one life we have chasing an illusion of an after life?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Either we have an after life or we do not is a passive way of looking at life after death. We do not want to be passive when it comes to achieving a life or lives after death. We often want, and most people seem to believe, that there is something that we can do to improve our chances of achieving an after death life. This is why many people are religious because it gives them something to work toward in this life time. If you do x, y, and z you will go to heaven. Or another example is If you are mummified and placed in a pyramid that you have built etc., you will have an after life. There are all sorts of rituals that cultures has to achieve some form of life after death. In this clip from the Atheist Experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEWztlIteo4, they say there is either an after life or not but there is no evidence that there is an after life so the rational thing to do is to make the most of this life. If there were evidence that certain sets of behaviors producing specific accomplishments increases the likelihood of an after life it might be worth sacrificing some of the better aspects of this life to achieve it. But since there have been proposed numerous ways of producing an afterlife for a person and no proof, why should we waste the one life we have chasing an illusion of an after life?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Is it emotionally healthy to believe in superimmortality?]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Is it emotionally healthy to believe in superimmortality?]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">what </del>would it be like to have proof of some coming back</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What </ins>would it be like to have proof of some <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">one </ins>coming back <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to life?</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">See also: [[Atheist Experience videos about life after death]], [[More videos about life after death]],</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[How superimmortality serves you and society]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[How superimmortality serves you and society]]</div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=89159&oldid=prev 2016-12-04T01:31:19Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:31, 4 December 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What is the proof that a [[cidentireplica]] will not have the [[ixperiencitness]] that the [[original]] has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement &quot;A cidentireplica will have the same identical ixperiencitness as does the original me.&quot;,  being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior, consciousness, and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]]. One experimental argument that a cidentireplica will produce the same consciousness as the original that has the same identical structure and functioning is that a [[cidentireplica]] always produces the same behavior as the [[original]] meaning all the same memories, self identity, skills, knowledge, feelings, emotions, [[self reference]], and  [[self beliefs]]. Further evidence is that when the cidentireplica is allowed to diverge from the structure and functioning of the original he still caries this self identity with him. He now can even sometimes remember things that actually happened to the original that the original has forgotten, but because his brain is now functioning differently it can generate different memories than the original can. Many of these memories can be more accurate than the original&#039;s recollection of these memories.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>What is the proof that a [[cidentireplica]] will not have the [[ixperiencitness]] that the [[original]] has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement &quot;A cidentireplica will have the same identical ixperiencitness as does the original me.&quot;,  being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior, consciousness, and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]]. One experimental argument that a cidentireplica will produce the same consciousness as the original that has the same identical structure and functioning is that a [[cidentireplica]] always produces the same behavior as the [[original]] meaning all the same memories, self identity, skills, knowledge, feelings, emotions, [[self reference]], and  [[self beliefs]]. Further evidence is that when the cidentireplica is allowed to diverge from the structure and functioning of the original he still caries this self identity with him. He now can even sometimes remember things that actually happened to the original that the original has forgotten, but because his brain is now functioning differently it can generate different memories than the original can. Many of these memories can be more accurate than the original&#039;s recollection of these memories.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Is it emotionally healthy to believe in superimmortality?]]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">what would it be like to have proof of some coming back</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=89158&oldid=prev 2016-12-04T01:16:53Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:16, 4 December 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Either we have an after life or we do not is a passive way of looking at life after death. We do not want to be passive when it comes to achieving a life or lives after death. We often want, and most people seem to believe, that there is something that we can do to improve our chances of achieving an after death life. This is why many people are religious because it gives them something to work toward in this life time. If you do x, y, and z you will go to heaven. Or another example is If you are mummified and placed in a pyramid that you have built etc., you will have an after life. There are all sorts of rituals that cultures has to achieve some form of life after death. In this clip from the Atheist Experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEWztlIteo4, they say there is either an after life or not but there is no evidence that there is an after life so the rational thing to do is to make the most of this life. If there were evidence that certain sets of behaviors producing specific accomplishments increases the likelihood of an after life it might be worth sacrificing some of the better aspects of this life to achieve it. But since there have been proposed numerous ways of producing an afterlife for a person and no proof, why should we waste the one life we have chasing an illusion of an after life?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Either we have an after life or we do not is a passive way of looking at life after death. We do not want to be passive when it comes to achieving a life or lives after death. We often want, and most people seem to believe, that there is something that we can do to improve our chances of achieving an after death life. This is why many people are religious because it gives them something to work toward in this life time. If you do x, y, and z you will go to heaven. Or another example is If you are mummified and placed in a pyramid that you have built etc., you will have an after life. There are all sorts of rituals that cultures has to achieve some form of life after death. In this clip from the Atheist Experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEWztlIteo4, they say there is either an after life or not but there is no evidence that there is an after life so the rational thing to do is to make the most of this life. If there were evidence that certain sets of behaviors producing specific accomplishments increases the likelihood of an after life it might be worth sacrificing some of the better aspects of this life to achieve it. But since there have been proposed numerous ways of producing an afterlife for a person and no proof, why should we waste the one life we have chasing an illusion of an after life?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There is extraordinary evidence for [[superimmortality]]. People are [[superimmortal]] whether they know it or not. Superimmortality does not guarantee conscious existence for every person after death. It does however show how it is possible and what you can do to increase the possibility of it occurring. The evidence that the universe is so big and can last so long adds to the probability of consciously existing again. Knowing how and having many different way to create a consciousness that you will experience again after death also increases the probability of consciously existing again after death.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There is extraordinary evidence for [[superimmortality]]. People are [[superimmortal]] whether they know it or not. Superimmortality does not guarantee conscious existence for every person after death. It does however show how it is possible and what you can do to increase the possibility of it occurring. The evidence that the universe is so big and can last so long adds to the probability of consciously existing again <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">after death</ins>. Knowing how and having many different way to create a consciousness that you will experience again after death also increases the probability of consciously existing again after death.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Superimmortality]] is not a post modern belief system where every belief is true. Very few beliefs about life after death that have been developed by humans over their history are correct. Superimmortality based on the [[science of superimmortality]] may be the closest theory to being true so far developed. Since the science of superimmortality deals with every possible consciousness that can exist and how to produce them, it will deal with how to produce any belief about any possible imaginable theory of the after life, life after death or immortality.  The ability to produce any belief system in a conscious being is not the same as letting any or all belief systems control society and reality. Knowledge, the pursuit of more knowledge, the use of knowledge to create positive things and positive consciousnesses need to be the controlling factors for a society. The fear of knowledge, the fear of the pursuit of more knowledge, that many religious and other belief system propagate are the antithesis of what superimmortality is trying to achieve. The more we know the more likely you are to consciously exist again after your death. Religious and other belief systems that do not believe in the value of knowledge and it pursuit decrease the probability that any one will consciously exist again after death.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Superimmortality]] is not a post modern belief system where every belief is true. Very few beliefs about life after death that have been developed by humans over their history are correct. Superimmortality based on the [[science of superimmortality]] may be the closest theory to being true so far developed. Since the science of superimmortality deals with every possible consciousness that can exist and how to produce <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or reproduce </ins>them, it will deal with how to produce any belief about any possible imaginable theory of the after life, life after death or immortality.  The ability to produce any belief system in a conscious being is not the same as letting any or all belief systems control society and reality. Knowledge, the pursuit of more knowledge, the use of knowledge to create positive things and positive consciousnesses need to be the controlling factors for a society. The fear of knowledge, the fear of the pursuit of more knowledge, that many religious and other belief system propagate are the antithesis of what superimmortality is trying to achieve. The more we know the more likely you are to consciously exist again after your death. Religious and other belief systems that do not believe in the value of knowledge and it pursuit decrease the probability that any one will consciously exist again after death.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that in many cases we should be able to figure out what is more likely when a statement is made.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that in many cases we should be able to figure out what is more likely when a statement is made.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that the statement: &quot;The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence&quot; is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence by absence of evidence.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that the statement: &quot;The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence&quot; is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence by absence of evidence.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The statement that "There is a cat in the trunk of may car." is analogous to the statement that "A replica of me is not me". When this statement is restated as "A [[cidentireplica]] of me will not have my [[ixperiencitness]]", it becomes more scientifically useful and exact.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This is because the term "replica" is very vague and can apply to many different replica varying properties. For instance, a "bronze replica" of a human has few identical properties to an actual human. The term "me" is a singular term so by using the definition of the term "me", a replica can not be me or the  I -- me would be or could be multiple. This is a truism with little useful meaning toward trying to understand life after death and immortality. This is why the statement has to be rewritten to produce a statement that has much more useful scientific meaning. </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">What is the proof that a [[cidentireplica]] will not have the [[ixperiencitness]] that the [[original]] has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement "A cidentireplica will have the same identical ixperiencitness as does the original me.",  being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior, consciousness, and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]]. One experimental argument that a cidentireplica will produce the same consciousness as the original that has the same identical structure and functioning is that a [[cidentireplica]] always produces the same behavior as the [[original]] meaning all the same memories, self identity, skills, knowledge, feelings, emotions, [[self reference]], and  [[self beliefs]]. Further evidence is that when the cidentireplica is allowed to diverge from the structure and functioning of the original he still caries this self identity with him. He now can even sometimes remember things that actually happened to the original that the original has forgotten, but because his brain is now functioning differently it can generate different memories than the original can. Many of these memories can be more accurate than the original's recollection of these memories.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The statement that "There is a cat in the trunk of may car." is analogous to the statement that "A replica of me is not me". When this statement is restated as "A [[cidentireplica]] of me will not have my [[ixperiencitness]]". The term "replica" is very vague. The term "me" is a singular term so there, by definition of me, a replica can not be me. This is a truism with little useful meaning when trying to understand life after death and immortality. This is why the statement has to be rewritten to produce a statement that has much more useful scientific meaning. What is the proof that a [[cidentireplica]] will not have the [[ixperiencitness]] that the [[original]] has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement "A cidentireplica will have the same identical ixperiencitness as does the original me.",  being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior consciousness and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]].</del></div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=89150&oldid=prev 2016-09-28T20:17:18Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:17, 28 September 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[How superimmortality serves you and society]]</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=89149&oldid=prev 2016-09-28T19:25:58Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:25, 28 September 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Superimmortality]] is not a post modern belief system where every belief is true. Very few beliefs about life after death that have been developed by humans over their history are correct. Superimmortality based on the [[science of superimmortality]] may be the closest theory to being true so far developed. Since the science of superimmortality deals with every possible consciousness that can exist and how to produce them, it will deal with how to produce any belief about any possible imaginable theory of the after life, life after death or immortality.  The ability to produce any belief system in a conscious being is not the same as letting any or all belief systems control society and reality. Knowledge, the pursuit of more knowledge, the use of knowledge to create positive things and positive consciousnesses need to be the controlling factors for a society. The fear of knowledge, the fear of the pursuit of more knowledge, that many religious and other belief system propagate are the antithesis of what superimmortality is trying to achieve. The more we know the more likely you are to consciously exist again after your death. Religious and other belief systems that do not believe in the value of knowledge and it pursuit decrease the probability that any one will consciously exist again after death.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Superimmortality]] is not a post modern belief system where every belief is true. Very few beliefs about life after death that have been developed by humans over their history are correct. Superimmortality based on the [[science of superimmortality]] may be the closest theory to being true so far developed. Since the science of superimmortality deals with every possible consciousness that can exist and how to produce them, it will deal with how to produce any belief about any possible imaginable theory of the after life, life after death or immortality.  The ability to produce any belief system in a conscious being is not the same as letting any or all belief systems control society and reality. Knowledge, the pursuit of more knowledge, the use of knowledge to create positive things and positive consciousnesses need to be the controlling factors for a society. The fear of knowledge, the fear of the pursuit of more knowledge, that many religious and other belief system propagate are the antithesis of what superimmortality is trying to achieve. The more we know the more likely you are to consciously exist again after your death. Religious and other belief systems that do not believe in the value of knowledge and it pursuit decrease the probability that any one will consciously exist again after death.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that in many cases we should be able to figure out what is more likely when a statement is made</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that in many cases we should be able to figure out what is more likely when a statement is made<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that the statement: "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">absence</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that the statement: "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">by absence </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">evidence</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The statement that "There is a cat in the trunk of may car." is analogous to the statement that "A replica of me is not me"<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, when </del>this statement is restated as "A [[cidentireplica]] of me will not have my [[ixperiencitness]]". The term "replica" is very vague. The term "me" is a singular term so there by definition of me a replica can not be <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be</del>. This is a truism with little useful meaning when trying to understand life after death and immortality. This why the statement has to be rewritten to produce a statement that has much more useful scientific meaning. What is the proof that a cidentireplica will not have the ixperiencitness that the original has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement "A cidentireplica will have <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">an </del>identical ixperiencitness as does the original me."  being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior consciousness and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The statement that "There is a cat in the trunk of may car." is analogous to the statement that "A replica of me is not me"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. When </ins>this statement is restated as "A [[cidentireplica]] of me will not have my [[ixperiencitness]]". The term "replica" is very vague. The term "me" is a singular term so there<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>by definition of me<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins>a replica can not be <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">me</ins>. This is a truism with little useful meaning when trying to understand life after death and immortality. This <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">is </ins>why the statement has to be rewritten to produce a statement that has much more useful scientific meaning. What is the proof that a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>cidentireplica<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>will not have the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>ixperiencitness<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>that the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>original<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement "A cidentireplica will have <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the same </ins>identical ixperiencitness as does the original me."<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </ins> being true. Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior consciousness and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=89083&oldid=prev 2016-07-30T22:33:12Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:33, 30 July 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l12">Line 12:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 12:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">{{Atheist Experience videos about life after death}}</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=88970&oldid=prev 2016-07-11T09:40:51Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 09:40, 11 July 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that the statement: &quot;The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence&quot; is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence of absence.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that the statement: &quot;The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence&quot; is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence of absence.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The [[cat in the truck analogy argument for replicas]] </del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The statement that "There is a cat in the trunk of may car." is analogous to the statement that "A replica of me is not me", when this statement is restated as "A [[cidentireplica]] of me will not have my [[ixperiencitness]]". The term "replica" is very vague. The term "me" is a singular term so there by definition of me a replica can not be be. This is a truism with little useful meaning when trying to understand life after death and immortality. This why the statement has to be rewritten to produce a statement that has much more useful scientific meaning. What is the proof that a cidentireplica will not have the ixperiencitness that the original has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement "A cidentireplica will have an identical ixperiencitness as does the original me."  being true.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The statement that "There is a cat in the trunk of may car." is analogous to the statement that "A replica of me is not me", when this statement is restated as "A [[cidentireplica]] of me will not have my [[ixperiencitness]]". The term "replica" is very vague. The term "me" is a singular term so there by definition of me a replica can not be be. This is a truism with little useful meaning when trying to understand life after death and immortality. This why the statement has to be rewritten to produce a statement that has much more useful scientific meaning. What is the proof that a cidentireplica will not have the ixperiencitness that the original has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement "A cidentireplica will have an identical ixperiencitness as does the original me."  being true. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ixperiencitness seems to be a property that is created by the functioning of a brain. What is the evidence that a particular ixperiencitness is only producible by one brain? There appears to be no evidence for this belief. But there is evidence that a cidentireplica will produce the same behavior consciousness and ixperiencitness as does the original. The lack of evidence for the alternative theory does add evidence for [[superimmortality]].</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">See the [[Cat in the trunk analogy argument for replicas]] for a more expansive discussion on the topic</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=88968&oldid=prev 2016-07-10T21:55:28Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:55, 10 July 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that in many cases we should be able to figure out what is more likely when a statement is made</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that in many cases we should be able to figure out what is more likely when a statement is made</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </del>Matt says that the statement: "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence of absence.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Matt says that the statement: "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence of absence.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[cat in the truck argument for <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">cidentireplicas</del>]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The [[cat in the truck <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">analogy </ins>argument for <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">replicas</ins>]]  </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The statement that "There is a cat in the trunk of may car." is analogous to the statement that "A replica of me is not me", when this statement is restated as "A [[cidentireplica]] of me will not have my [[ixperiencitness]]". The term "replica" is very vague. The term "me" is a singular term so there by definition of me a replica can not be be. This is a truism with little useful meaning when trying to understand life after death and immortality. This why the statement has to be rewritten to produce a statement that has much more useful scientific meaning. What is the proof that a cidentireplica will not have the ixperiencitness that the original has? The problem is there is no proof of this statement, and thus this gives evidence for the statement "A cidentireplica will have an identical ixperiencitness as does the original me."  being true.</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Mark https://awaretheory.com/wiki/index.php?title=Life_After_Death_Atheist_Experience&diff=88967&oldid=prev 2016-07-10T21:37:46Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:37, 10 July 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Superimmortality]] is not a post modern belief system where every belief is true. Very few beliefs about life after death that have been developed by humans over their history are correct. Superimmortality based on the [[science of superimmortality]] may be the closest theory to being true so far developed. Since the science of superimmortality deals with every possible consciousness that can exist and how to produce them, it will deal with how to produce any belief about any possible imaginable theory of the after life, life after death or immortality.  The ability to produce any belief system in a conscious being is not the same as letting any or all belief systems control society and reality. Knowledge, the pursuit of more knowledge, the use of knowledge to create positive things and positive consciousnesses need to be the controlling factors for a society. The fear of knowledge, the fear of the pursuit of more knowledge, that many religious and other belief system propagate are the antithesis of what superimmortality is trying to achieve. The more we know the more likely you are to consciously exist again after your death. Religious and other belief systems that do not believe in the value of knowledge and it pursuit decrease the probability that any one will consciously exist again after death.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Superimmortality]] is not a post modern belief system where every belief is true. Very few beliefs about life after death that have been developed by humans over their history are correct. Superimmortality based on the [[science of superimmortality]] may be the closest theory to being true so far developed. Since the science of superimmortality deals with every possible consciousness that can exist and how to produce them, it will deal with how to produce any belief about any possible imaginable theory of the after life, life after death or immortality.  The ability to produce any belief system in a conscious being is not the same as letting any or all belief systems control society and reality. Knowledge, the pursuit of more knowledge, the use of knowledge to create positive things and positive consciousnesses need to be the controlling factors for a society. The fear of knowledge, the fear of the pursuit of more knowledge, that many religious and other belief system propagate are the antithesis of what superimmortality is trying to achieve. The more we know the more likely you are to consciously exist again after your death. Religious and other belief systems that do not believe in the value of knowledge and it pursuit decrease the probability that any one will consciously exist again after death.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Matt says that in many cases we should be able to figure out what is more likely when a statement is made</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> Matt says that the statement: "The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" is not always true. He gives the example of the cat in the truck of a car if there is no evidence of a cat in the truck of a car then this does give us evidence that there is evidence of absence.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The [[cat in the truck argument for cidentireplicas]]</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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