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			[[Justice without punishment]]

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	It is unlikely that the extreme case of no [[positive awarepaths]] can exist in an [[ixperiencitness grouping]]. There never has to be any awarepaths produced deliberately, simply for the only purpose of having to have it exist. Because ixperiencitness is a [[continuum concept]] even the worst ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths will grade over to more positive ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths, thus with the possibility of producing more positive awarepaths. There is also the situation where any possible [[externapath]] can be applied to any [[itobody]]. So, if an itobody is producing an awarepath that is in a grouping of awarepaths defined as an [[unjust ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]] it would seem like improving the externapath ([[sensepath]] and [[enviropath]]) would increase the positiveness of the awarepath produced. It would then take an [[itobrain]] that no matter how good the externapath applied to it was, would still produce terrible (unjust) awarepaths for the total ixperiencitness grouping to be undesirable. It would not only have to be to one itobrain that produced that ixperiencitness but it would have to be the case that no matter what externapath was applied to what itobrain (producing a particular ixperiencitness) they would all have to produced the undesired awarepaths.		It is unlikely that the extreme case of no [[positive awarepaths]] can exist in an [[ixperiencitness grouping]]. There never has to be any awarepaths produced deliberately, simply for the only purpose of having to have it exist. Because ixperiencitness is a [[continuum concept]] even the worst ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths will grade over to more positive ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths, thus with the possibility of producing more positive awarepaths. There is also the situation where any possible [[externapath]] can be applied to any [[itobody]]. So, if an itobody is producing an awarepath that is in a grouping of awarepaths defined as an [[unjust ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]] it would seem like improving the externapath ([[sensepath]] and [[enviropath]]) would increase the positiveness of the awarepath produced. It would then take an [[itobrain]] that no matter how good the externapath applied to it was, would still produce terrible (unjust) awarepaths for the total ixperiencitness grouping to be undesirable. It would not only have to be to one itobrain that produced that ixperiencitness but it would have to be the case that no matter what externapath was applied to what itobrain (producing a particular ixperiencitness) they would all have to produced the undesired awarepaths.

	No god is necessary to make decisions producing cosmic justice. Humans can make informed decisions about which awarepaths are better than others when it come to suffering and justice.		A particular awarepath's desirability can be defined by the ratio of bad [[awaresections]] to good awaresections within it. We can then imagine the case where the bad awaresections are removed, as could be done in an awarepaducer, and the good ones combined or other wise grouped together into other awarepaths that are then the awarepaths produced.

			No god is necessary to make decisions producing cosmic justice. Humans can make informed decisions about which awarepaths are better than others when it come to suffering and justice. Awarepaths within an [[ixperiencitness grouping]] that has no desirable or useful members (awarepaths) does not have to ever be deliberately produced by conscious beings.


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	;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different [[awarepaths]]. It is likely that future existing [[Itophyaspaducers]] can produce the [[awarepaths]] that human bodies can, plus many many more that can not be produced by reality directly. For example, World War 2 can not be repeated on earth again so the [[sensepaths]] that World War 2 created can not be produced again, but a [[itophysapaducer]], if advanced enough, could produce World War 2 like [[awarepaths]] by producing the correct [[itophysapaths]] stimulated by the various WW2 type [[sensepaths]]. Sensepaths from any previous or future time can be created by [[sensepaducers]] within [[physapaducer]]. Also many different types of realities (magical etc.) can be applied to any point on any physapath making an [[enumerable amount]] of differnt awarepaths that have the same [[ixperiencitness]]. If it is your ixperiencitness you will experience them.		;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different [[awarepaths]]. It is likely that future existing [[Itophyaspaducers]] can produce the [[awarepaths]] that human bodies can, plus many many more that can not be produced by reality directly. For example, World War 2 can not be repeated on earth again so the [[sensepaths]] that World War 2 created can not be produced again, but a [[itophysapaducer]], if advanced enough, could produce World War 2 like [[awarepaths]] by producing the correct [[itophysapaths]] stimulated by the various WW2 type [[sensepaths]]. Sensepaths from any previous or future time can be created by [[sensepaducers]] within [[physapaducer]]. Also many different types of realities (magical etc.) can be applied to any point on any physapath making an [[enumerable amount]] of differnt awarepaths that have the same [[ixperiencitness]]. If it is your ixperiencitness you will experience them.

	Ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths do not have to be equal in numbers of good versus bad awarepaths that they contain. It is possible, or we can at least imagine a complete ixperiencitness grouping of [[awarepaths]] where there is just one good potential awarepath and the rest are so filled with misery and suffering that conscious beings would never willing want to experience them. This seems to be a [[cosmic injustice for a ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]]. There are several types of injustices in this situation. First, the percentage of good to bad potential awarepaths appears to be unfair.		[[Ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths]] do not have to be equal in numbers of good versus bad awarepaths that they contain. It is possible, or we can at least imagine a complete ixperiencitness grouping of [[awarepaths]] where there is just one good potential awarepath and the rest are so filled with misery and suffering that conscious beings would never willing want to experience them. This seems to be a [[cosmic injustice for a ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]]. There are several types of injustices in this situation. First, the percentage of good to bad potential awarepaths appears to be unfair.
	there are ways of making up for this type of injustice. First, in which potential awarepaths are produced the best awarepath can be reproduced over and over again and the worst one do not have to be reproduced ever or just by random chance naturally.		there are ways of making up for this type of injustice. First, in which potential awarepaths are produced the best awarepath can be reproduced over and over again and the worst one do not have to be reproduced ever or just by random chance naturally.

	It is unlikely that the extreme case of no positive awarepaths can exist in an [[ixperiencitness grouping]]. There never has to be any awarepaths produced deliberately, simply for the only purpose of having to have it exist. Because ixperiencitness is a [[continuum concept]] even the worst ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths will grade over to more positive ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths, thus with the possibility of producing more positive awarepaths. There is also the situation where any possible [[externapath]] can be applied to any [[itobody]]. So, if an itobody is producing an awarepath that is in a grouping of awarepaths defined as an [[unjust ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]] it would seem like improving the externapath ([[sensepath]] and [[enviropath]]) would increase the positiveness of the awarepath produced. It would then take an [[itobrain]] that no matter how good the externapath applied to it was, would still produce terrible (unjust) awarepaths. It would not only have to be to one itobrain that produced that ixperiencitness but it would have to be the case that no matter what externapath was applied to what itobrain they would all have to produced the undesired awarepaths.		It is unlikely that the extreme case of no positive awarepaths can exist in an [[ixperiencitness grouping]]. There never has to be any awarepaths produced deliberately, simply for the only purpose of having to have it exist. Because ixperiencitness is a [[continuum concept]] even the worst ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths will grade over to more positive ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths, thus with the possibility of producing more positive awarepaths. There is also the situation where any possible [[externapath]] can be applied to any [[itobody]]. So, if an itobody is producing an awarepath that is in a grouping of awarepaths defined as an [[unjust ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]] it would seem like improving the externapath ([[sensepath]] and [[enviropath]]) would increase the positiveness of the awarepath produced. It would then take an [[itobrain]] that no matter how good the externapath applied to it was, would still produce terrible (unjust) awarepaths. It would not only have to be to one itobrain that produced that ixperiencitness but it would have to be the case that no matter what externapath was applied to what itobrain they would all have to produced the undesired awarepaths.
			[[Argument for just ixperiencitness groupings]]

			No god is necessary to make decisions producing cosmic justice. Humans can make informed decisions about which awarepaths are better than others when it come to suffering and justice.

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	The [[Cosmic justice argument]] is the argument that the [[Awaretheory]] ideas restore the concept that there is justice in the universe. It has often been stated that because some people have very unpleasant lives while other have very good lives the universe is unfair and even unjust. The universe appears to be unjust because people that do bad things to others frequently are not punished and even are rewarded for their bad and deceptive behavior. How can there be a ~~justice~~ world when bad people that kill and torture other people even young children live long and happy lives? It is often argued that this is why there must be a god and an after life to make sure that bad people are punished and innocent and good people are rewarded. The [[~~awaretheory~~]] ~~ideas~~ lead to [[superimmortality]] which is much more complex that [[simple immortality]] or life after death. [[Superimmortality]] does not require a god or gods to restore justice to the universe. It appears that every [[ixperiencitness]] has good and bad potential [[consciousness]]es or awarepaths. Some of them will become [[actually existing]] over time.		The [[Cosmic justice argument]] is the argument that the [[Awaretheory]] ideas restore the concept that there is justice in the universe. It has often been stated that because some people have very unpleasant and, or short lives while other have very good long lives the universe is unfair and even unjust. The universe appears to be unjust because people that do bad things to others frequently are not punished and even are rewarded for their bad and deceptive behavior. How can there be a just world when bad people that kill and torture other people even young children and babies, live long and happy lives? It is often argued that this is why there must be a god and an [[after life]] to make sure that bad people are punished and innocent and good people are rewarded. The [[ixperiencit theory of consciousness]] lead to the [[science of superimmortality]] which is much more complex that [[simple immortality]] or [[life after death]]. [[Superimmortality]] does not require a god or gods to restore justice to the universe. It appears that every [[ixperiencitness]] has good and bad potential [[consciousness]]es or awarepaths. Some of them will become [[actually existing]] over time.

	It is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you have a good life and in the process you act badly to others, and as a result then you go to hell forever. Justice means that you suffer equally to the suffering that you cause others. Or on a more positive note you benefit equally from the positive things that you do for others. Again reversing the situation from above, it is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you suffer a bad life, caused by no fault of your own, yet nonetheless you manage to act kindly and sacrifice for others, as a result you go to heaven forever. People can be bad and act good for long periods of time And the reverse be good and and act bad for periods of time. A good person thus acting bad for a period of time would go to hell and a bad person acting good for a life time would go to heaven.		It is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you have a good life and in the process you act badly to others, and as a result then you go to hell forever. Justice means that you suffer equally to the suffering that you cause others or deserve for other reasons. Or on a more positive note you benefit equally from the positive things that you do for others. Again reversing the situation from above, it is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you suffer a bad life, caused by no fault of your own, yet nonetheless you manage to act kindly and sacrifice for others, as a result you go to heaven forever. People can be bad and act good for long periods of time And the reverse, be good and and act bad for periods of time. A good person thus acting bad for a period of time would go to hell and a bad person acting good for a life time would go to heaven.

	These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the this universe:		These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the this universe:
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	;5. There are many potential enhanced [[itophysapaths]] that produce enhanced [[awarepaths]] that will have the same [[ixperiencitness]] as you do. They likely will make efforts to produce more positive awarepaths, repeat positive awarepaths, extend shortened awarepaths, and remove negative parts of awarepaths and replace them with better possible [[awaresections]], all by being able to control which [[itophysapaths]] are created and which one are not.		;5. There are many potential enhanced [[itophysapaths]] that produce enhanced [[awarepaths]] that will have the same [[ixperiencitness]] as you do. They likely will make efforts to produce more positive awarepaths, repeat positive awarepaths, extend shortened awarepaths, and remove negative parts of awarepaths and replace them with better possible [[awaresections]], all by being able to control which [[itophysapaths]] are created and which one are not.
	;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different [[awarepaths]]. It is likely that future existing [[Itophyaspaducers]] can produce the [[awarepaths]] that human bodies can, plus many many more that can not be produced by reality directly. For example, World War 2 can not be repeated on earth again so the [[sensepaths]] that World War 2 created can not be produced again, but a [[itophysapaducer]], if advanced enough, could produce World War 2 like [[awarepaths]] by producing the correct [[itophysapaths]] stimulated by the various WW2 type [[sensepaths]]. Sensepaths from any previous or future time can be created by [[sensepaducers]] within [[physapaducer]]. Also many different types of realities (magical etc.) can be applied to any point on any physapath making an [[enumerable amount]] of differnt awarepaths that have the same [[ixperiencitness]]. If it is your ixperiencitness you will experience them.		;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different [[awarepaths]]. It is likely that future existing [[Itophyaspaducers]] can produce the [[awarepaths]] that human bodies can, plus many many more that can not be produced by reality directly. For example, World War 2 can not be repeated on earth again so the [[sensepaths]] that World War 2 created can not be produced again, but a [[itophysapaducer]], if advanced enough, could produce World War 2 like [[awarepaths]] by producing the correct [[itophysapaths]] stimulated by the various WW2 type [[sensepaths]]. Sensepaths from any previous or future time can be created by [[sensepaducers]] within [[physapaducer]]. Also many different types of realities (magical etc.) can be applied to any point on any physapath making an [[enumerable amount]] of differnt awarepaths that have the same [[ixperiencitness]]. If it is your ixperiencitness you will experience them.

			Ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths do not have to be equal in numbers of good versus bad awarepaths that they contain. It is possible, or we can at least imagine a complete ixperiencitness grouping of [[awarepaths]] where there is just one good potential awarepath and the rest are so filled with misery and suffering that conscious beings would never willing want to experience them. This seems to be a [[cosmic injustice for a ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]]. There are several types of injustices in this situation. First, the percentage of good to bad potential awarepaths appears to be unfair.
			there are ways of making up for this type of injustice. First, in which potential awarepaths are produced the best awarepath can be reproduced over and over again and the worst one do not have to be reproduced ever or just by random chance naturally.

			It is unlikely that the extreme case of no positive awarepaths can exist in an [[ixperiencitness grouping]]. There never has to be any awarepaths produced deliberately, simply for the only purpose of having to have it exist. Because ixperiencitness is a [[continuum concept]] even the worst ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths will grade over to more positive ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths, thus with the possibility of producing more positive awarepaths. There is also the situation where any possible [[externapath]] can be applied to any [[itobody]]. So, if an itobody is producing an awarepath that is in a grouping of awarepaths defined as an [[unjust ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]] it would seem like improving the externapath ([[sensepath]] and [[enviropath]]) would increase the positiveness of the awarepath produced. It would then take an [[itobrain]] that no matter how good the externapath applied to it was, would still produce terrible (unjust) awarepaths. It would not only have to be to one itobrain that produced that ixperiencitness but it would have to be the case that no matter what externapath was applied to what itobrain they would all have to produced the undesired awarepaths.

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	These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the this universe:		These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the this universe:

	;1. A chance of one or more lives before and after this one or the ~~life that seems unjust~~.		;1. [[Superimmortality]] gives a chance, at the very least of one or more extra lives existing before and after this negative one being more positive reducing some of the total unjustice.
	;2. ~~Since~~ [[~~superimmortality~~]] predicts that more than one [[itobody]] or person can have the same [[ixperiencitness]] but a different [[consciousness]] at the same time, ~~and not be aware of it at the time. Versions~~ of each other can interact with each other making each ~~other~~'s ~~lives~~ better or worse.		;2. [[Superimmortality]] allows and predicts that more than one [[itobody]] or person can have the same [[ixperiencitness]] but a different [[consciousness]], at the same time. Consequently, conscious versions of each other with the same [[ixperiencitness]] can interact with each other making each others live's better or worse. If you know that you can make the lives of other versions of yourself better you might try harder to do so. If you do not, and you make other versions of yourself suffer, it is like punishing yourself. In a way it is like [[poetic justice]].
	;3. There is a [[itophysacontinuum]] that corresponds to each [[potential self]] where any part of the whole itophysaconitnuum produces the same [[ixperiencitness]]. There are good, bad, average, and spectacularly awesome awarepaths that will be produced when their corresponding [[physapaths]] ~~with in~~ this itophysacontinuum are produced.		;3. There is a [[itophysacontinuum]] that corresponds to each [[potential self]] where any part of the whole itophysaconitnuum produces the same [[ixperiencitness]]. There are good, bad, average, and spectacularly awesome [[awarepaths]] that will be produced when their corresponding [[physapaths]] within this itophysacontinuum are produced.
	;4. Many [[awarepaths]] that you will experience can contribute to which awarepaths will be produced so in many cases you can make greater [[cosmic justice]] for yourself and others by making physapaths that produce better or more desirable awarepaths.		;4. Many [[awarepaths]] that you will experience can contribute to which awarepaths that will be produced so in many cases you can make greater [[cosmic justice]] for yourself and others by making [[physapaths]] that produce better or more desirable awarepaths.
	;5. There are many enhanced [[itophysapaths]] that produce enhanced [[awarepaths]] that will have the same [[ixperiencitness]] as you do. They likely will produce more positive awarepaths, repeat positive awarepaths, extend shortened awarepaths, and remove negative parts of awarepaths and replace them with better ~~possibilities~~, all by being able to control which itophysapaths are created and which one are not.		;5. There are many potential enhanced [[itophysapaths]] that produce enhanced [[awarepaths]] that will have the same [[ixperiencitness]] as you do. They likely will make efforts to produce more positive awarepaths, repeat positive awarepaths, extend shortened awarepaths, and remove negative parts of awarepaths and replace them with better possible [[awaresections]], all by being able to control which [[itophysapaths]] are created and which one are not.
	;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different awarepaths. ~~The itophyaspaducers~~ can produce the ~~awarepath~~ that human bodies can plus many many more that ~~ca n~~ not be produced ~~being~~ created to be		;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different [[awarepaths]]. It is likely that future existing [[Itophyaspaducers]] can produce the [[awarepaths]] that human bodies can, plus many many more that can not be produced by reality directly. For example, World War 2 can not be repeated on earth again so the [[sensepaths]] that World War 2 created can not be produced again, but a [[itophysapaducer]], if advanced enough, could produce World War 2 like [[awarepaths]] by producing the correct [[itophysapaths]] stimulated by the various WW2 type [[sensepaths]]. Sensepaths from any previous or future time can be created by [[sensepaducers]] within [[physapaducer]]. Also many different types of realities (magical etc.) can be applied to any point on any physapath making an [[enumerable amount]] of differnt awarepaths that have the same [[ixperiencitness]]. If it is your ixperiencitness you will experience them.

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	It is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you have a good life and in the process you act badly to others, and as a result then you go to hell forever. Justice means that you suffer equally to the suffering that you cause others. Or on a more positive note you benefit equally from the positive things that you do for others. Again reversing the situation from above, it is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you suffer a bad life, caused by no fault of your own, yet nonetheless you manage to act kindly and sacrifice for others, as a result you go to heaven forever. People can be bad and act good for long periods of time And the reverse be good and and act bad for periods of time. A good person thus acting bad for a period of time would go to hell and a bad person acting good for a life time would go to heaven.		It is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you have a good life and in the process you act badly to others, and as a result then you go to hell forever. Justice means that you suffer equally to the suffering that you cause others. Or on a more positive note you benefit equally from the positive things that you do for others. Again reversing the situation from above, it is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you suffer a bad life, caused by no fault of your own, yet nonetheless you manage to act kindly and sacrifice for others, as a result you go to heaven forever. People can be bad and act good for long periods of time And the reverse be good and and act bad for periods of time. A good person thus acting bad for a period of time would go to hell and a bad person acting good for a life time would go to heaven.

	These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the universe:		These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the this universe:

			;1. A chance of one or more lives before and after this one or the life that seems unjust.
			;2. Since [[superimmortality]] predicts that more than one [[itobody]] or person can have the same [[ixperiencitness]] but a different [[consciousness]] at the same time, and not be aware of it at the time. Versions of each other can interact with each other making each other's lives better or worse.
			;3. There is a [[itophysacontinuum]] that corresponds to each [[potential self]] where any part of the whole itophysaconitnuum produces the same [[ixperiencitness]]. There are good, bad, average, and spectacularly awesome awarepaths that will be produced when their corresponding [[physapaths]] with in this itophysacontinuum are produced.
			;4. Many [[awarepaths]] that you will experience can contribute to which awarepaths will be produced so in many cases you can make greater [[cosmic justice]] for yourself and others by making physapaths that produce better or more desirable awarepaths.
			;5. There are many enhanced [[itophysapaths]] that produce enhanced [[awarepaths]] that will have the same [[ixperiencitness]] as you do. They likely will produce more positive awarepaths, repeat positive awarepaths, extend shortened awarepaths, and remove negative parts of awarepaths and replace them with better possibilities, all by being able to control which itophysapaths are created and which one are not.
			;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different awarepaths. The itophyaspaducers can produce the awarepath that human bodies can plus many many more that ca n not be produced being created to be

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	The [[Cosmic justice argument]] is the argument that the [[Awaretheory]] ideas restore the concept that there is justice in the universe. It has often been stated that because some people have very unpleasant lives while other have very good lives the universe is unfair and even unjust. The universe appears to be unjust because people that do bad things to others frequently are not punished and even are rewarded for their bad and deceptive behavior. How can there be a justice world when bad people that kill and torture other people even young children live long and happy lives? It is often argued that this is why there must be a god and an after life to make sure that bad people are punished and innocent and good people are rewarded. The [[awaretheory]] ideas lead to [[superimmortality]] which is much more complex that [[simple immortality]] or life after death. [[Superimmortality]] does not require a god or gods to restore justice to the universe. It appears that every [[ixperiencitness]] has good and bad potential [[consciousness]]es or awarepaths. Some of them will become [[actually existing]] over time.		The [[Cosmic justice argument]] is the argument that the [[Awaretheory]] ideas restore the concept that there is justice in the universe. It has often been stated that because some people have very unpleasant lives while other have very good lives the universe is unfair and even unjust. The universe appears to be unjust because people that do bad things to others frequently are not punished and even are rewarded for their bad and deceptive behavior. How can there be a justice world when bad people that kill and torture other people even young children live long and happy lives? It is often argued that this is why there must be a god and an after life to make sure that bad people are punished and innocent and good people are rewarded. The [[awaretheory]] ideas lead to [[superimmortality]] which is much more complex that [[simple immortality]] or life after death. [[Superimmortality]] does not require a god or gods to restore justice to the universe. It appears that every [[ixperiencitness]] has good and bad potential [[consciousness]]es or awarepaths. Some of them will become [[actually existing]] over time.

			It is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you have a good life and in the process you act badly to others, and as a result then you go to hell forever. Justice means that you suffer equally to the suffering that you cause others. Or on a more positive note you benefit equally from the positive things that you do for others. Again reversing the situation from above, it is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you suffer a bad life, caused by no fault of your own, yet nonetheless you manage to act kindly and sacrifice for others, as a result you go to heaven forever. People can be bad and act good for long periods of time And the reverse be good and and act bad for periods of time. A good person thus acting bad for a period of time would go to hell and a bad person acting good for a life time would go to heaven.

			These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the universe:

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The [[Cosmic justice argument]] is the argument that the [[Awaretheory]] ideas restore the concept that there is justice in the universe. It has often been stated that because some people have very unpleasant lives while other have very good lives the universe is unfair and even unjust. The universe appears to be unjust because people that do bad things to others frequently are not punished and even are rewarded for their bad and deceptive behavior. How can there be a justice world when bad people that kill and torture other people even young children live long and happy lives? It is often argued that this is why there must be a god and an after life to make sure that bad people are punished and innocent and good people are rewarded. The [[awaretheory]] ideas lead to [[superimmortality]] which is much more complex that [[simple immortality]] or life after death. [[Superimmortality]] does not require a god or gods to restore justice to the universe. It appears that every [[ixperiencitness]] has good and bad potential [[consciousness]]es or awarepaths. Some of them will become [[actually existing]] over time.

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	The [[Cosmic justice argument]] is the argument that the [[Awaretheory]] ideas restore the concept that there is justice in the universe. It has often been stated that because some people have very unpleasant and, or short lives while other have very good long lives the universe is unfair and even unjust. The universe appears to be unjust because people that do bad things to others frequently are not punished and even are rewarded for their bad and deceptive behavior. How can there be a just world when bad people that kill and torture other people even young children and babies, live long and happy lives? It is often argued that this is why there must be a god and an [[after life]] to make sure that bad people are punished and innocent and good people are rewarded. The [[ixperiencit theory of consciousness]] lead to the [[science of superimmortality]] which is much more complex ~~that~~ [[simple immortality]] or [[life after death]]. [[Superimmortality]] does not require a god or gods to restore justice to the universe. It appears that every [[ixperiencitness]] has good and bad potential [[consciousness]]es or awarepaths. Some of them will become [[actually existing]] over time.		The [[Cosmic justice argument]] is the argument that the [[Awaretheory]] ideas restore the concept that there is justice in the universe without a need for a god or gods. It has often been stated that because some people have very unpleasant and, or short lives while other have very good long lives the universe is unfair and even unjust, especially when the many individuals that get the good long lives do not seem to deserve them. The universe appears to be unjust because people that do bad things to others frequently are not punished and even are rewarded for their bad and deceptive behavior. How can there be a just world when bad people that kill and torture other people even young children and babies, live long and happy lives? It is often argued that this is why there must be a god and an [[after life]] to make sure that bad people are punished and innocent and good people are rewarded. The [[ixperiencit theory of consciousness]] lead to the [[science of superimmortality]] which is much more complex than [[simple immortality]] or [[life after death]]. [[Superimmortality]] does not require a god or gods to restore justice to the universe. It appears that every [[ixperiencitness]] has good and bad potential [[consciousness]]es or awarepaths. Some of them will become [[actually existing]] over time.

	It is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you have a good life and in the process you act badly to others, and as a result then you go to hell forever. Justice means that you suffer equally to the suffering that you cause others or deserve for other reasons. Or on a more positive note you benefit equally from the positive things that you do for others. Again reversing the situation from above, it is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you suffer a bad life, caused by no fault of your own, yet nonetheless you manage to act kindly and sacrifice for others, as a result you go to heaven forever. People can be bad and act good for long periods of time And the reverse, be good and and act bad for periods of time. A good person thus acting bad for a period of time would go to hell and a bad person acting good for a life time would go to heaven.		It is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you have a good life and in the process you act badly to others, and as a result then you go to hell forever. Justice means that you suffer equally to the suffering that you cause others or deserve for other reasons. Or on a more positive note you benefit equally from the positive things that you do for others. Again reversing the situation from above, it is the reverse of cosmic justice if for a short period of time you suffer a bad life, caused by no fault of your own, yet nonetheless you manage to act kindly and sacrifice for others, as a result you go to heaven forever. People can be bad and act good for long periods of time And the reverse, be good and and act bad for periods of time. A good person thus acting bad for a period of time would go to hell and a bad person acting good for a life time would go to heaven.
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	These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the this universe:		These are some of the ways that [[superimmortality]] restores cosmic justice to the this universe:

	;1. [[Superimmortality]] gives a chance, at the very least of one or more extra lives existing before and after this negative one being more positive reducing some of the total ~~unjustice~~.		;1. [[Superimmortality]] gives a chance, at the very least of one or more extra lives existing before and after this current negative unjust one, being more positive, reducing some of the total injustice.
	;2. [[Superimmortality]] allows and predicts that more than one [[itobody]] or person can have the same [[ixperiencitness]] but a different [[consciousness]], at the same time. Consequently, conscious versions of each other with the same [[ixperiencitness]] can interact with each other making each others live's better or worse. If you know that you can make the lives of other versions of yourself better you might try harder to do so. If you do not, and you make other versions of yourself suffer, it is like punishing yourself. In a way it is like [[poetic justice]].		;2. [[Superimmortality]] allows and predicts that more than one [[itobody]] or person can have the same [[ixperiencitness]] but a different [[consciousness]], at the same time. Consequently, conscious versions of each other with the same [[ixperiencitness]] can interact with each other making each others live's better or worse. If you know that you can make the lives of other versions of yourself better you might try harder to do so. If you do not, and you make other versions of yourself suffer, it is like punishing yourself. In a way it is like [[poetic justice]].
	;3. There is a [[itophysacontinuum]] that corresponds to each [[potential self]] where any part of the whole itophysaconitnuum produces the same [[ixperiencitness]]. There are good, bad, average, and spectacularly awesome [[awarepaths]] that will be produced when their corresponding [[physapaths]] within this itophysacontinuum are produced.		;3. There is a [[itophysacontinuum]] that corresponds to each [[potential self]] where any part of the whole itophysaconitnuum produces the same [[ixperiencitness]]. There are good, bad, average, and spectacularly awesome [[awarepaths]] that will be produced when their corresponding [[physapaths]] within this itophysacontinuum are produced.
	;4. Many [[awarepaths]] that you will experience can contribute to which awarepaths that will be produced so in many cases you can make greater [[cosmic justice]] for yourself and others by making [[physapaths]] that produce better or more desirable awarepaths.		;4. Many [[awarepaths]] that you will experience can contribute to which awarepaths that will be produced, so in many cases you can make greater [[cosmic justice]] for yourself and others by making [[physapaths]] that produce better or more desirable awarepaths.
	;5. There are many potential enhanced [[itophysapaths]] that produce enhanced [[awarepaths]] that will have the same [[ixperiencitness]] as you do. They likely will make efforts to produce more positive awarepaths, repeat positive awarepaths, extend shortened awarepaths, and remove negative parts of awarepaths and replace them with better possible [[awaresections]], all by being able to control which [[itophysapaths]] are created and which one are not.		;5. There are many potential enhanced [[itophysapaths]] that produce enhanced [[awarepaths]] that will have the same [[ixperiencitness]] as you do. They likely will make efforts to produce more positive awarepaths, repeat positive awarepaths, extend shortened awarepaths, and remove negative parts of awarepaths and replace them with better possible [[awaresections]], all by being able to control which [[itophysapaths]] are created and which one are not.
	;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different [[awarepaths]]. It is likely that future existing [[~~Itophyaspaducers~~]] can produce the [[awarepaths]] that human bodies can, plus many many more that can not be produced by reality directly. For example, World War 2 can not be repeated on earth again so the [[sensepaths]] that World War 2 created can not be produced again, but a [[itophysapaducer]], if advanced enough, could produce World War 2 like [[awarepaths]] by producing the correct [[itophysapaths]] stimulated by the various WW2 type [[sensepaths]]. Sensepaths from any previous or future time can be created by [[sensepaducers]] within [[physapaducer]]. Also many different types of realities (magical etc.) can be applied to any point on any physapath making an [[enumerable amount]] of ~~differnt~~ awarepaths that have the same [[ixperiencitness]]. If it is your ixperiencitness you will experience them.		;6. The creation of [[itophysapaducer]]s allows for an even greater possibility of producing more and different [[awarepaths]]. It is likely that future existing [[Itophysapaducers]] can produce the [[awarepaths]] that human bodies can, plus many many more that can not be produced by reality directly. For example, World War 2 can not be repeated on earth again so the [[sensepaths]] that World War 2 created can not be produced again, but a [[itophysapaducer]], if advanced enough, could produce World War 2 like [[awarepaths]] by producing the correct [[itophysapaths]] stimulated by the various WW2 type [[sensepaths]]. Sensepaths from any previous or future time can be created by [[sensepaducers]] within [[physapaducer]]s. Also many different types of realities (magical etc.) can be applied to any point on any physapath making an [[enumerable amount]] of different awarepaths that have the same [[ixperiencitness]]. If it is your ixperiencitness you will experience them.

	[[Ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths]] do not have to be equal in numbers of good versus bad awarepaths that they contain. It is possible, or we can at least imagine a complete ixperiencitness grouping of [[awarepaths]] where there is just one good potential awarepath and the rest are so filled with misery and suffering that conscious beings would never ~~willing~~ want to experience them. This seems to be a [[cosmic injustice for a ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]]. There are several types of injustices in this situation. First, the percentage of good to bad potential awarepaths appears to be unfair.		[[Ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths]] do not have to be equal in numbers of "good" versus "bad" awarepaths that they contain. It is possible, or we can at least imagine a complete ixperiencitness grouping of [[awarepaths]] where there is just one [[good potential awarepath]] and the rest are so filled with misery and suffering that conscious beings would never willingly want to experience them. This seems to be a [[cosmic injustice for a ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]]. There are several types of injustices in this situation. First, the percentage of good to bad potential awarepaths appears to be unfair. There are ways of making up for this type of injustice. First, in which potential awarepaths are produced the best awarepath can be reproduced over and over again and the worst one do not have to be reproduced ever or just by random chance naturally.
	~~there~~ are ways of making up for this type of injustice. First, in which potential awarepaths are produced the best awarepath can be reproduced over and over again and the worst one do not have to be reproduced ever or just by random chance naturally.

	It is unlikely that the extreme case of no positive awarepaths can exist in an [[ixperiencitness grouping]]. There never has to be any awarepaths produced deliberately, simply for the only purpose of having to have it exist. Because ixperiencitness is a [[continuum concept]] even the worst ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths will grade over to more positive ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths, thus with the possibility of producing more positive awarepaths. There is also the situation where any possible [[externapath]] can be applied to any [[itobody]]. So, if an itobody is producing an awarepath that is in a grouping of awarepaths defined as an [[unjust ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]] it would seem like improving the externapath ([[sensepath]] and [[enviropath]]) would increase the positiveness of the awarepath produced. It would then take an [[itobrain]] that no matter how good the externapath applied to it was, would still produce terrible (unjust) awarepaths. It would not only have to be to one itobrain that produced that ixperiencitness but it would have to be the case that no matter what externapath was applied to what itobrain they would all have to produced the undesired awarepaths.		It is unlikely that the extreme case of no [[positive awarepaths]] can exist in an [[ixperiencitness grouping]]. There never has to be any awarepaths produced deliberately, simply for the only purpose of having to have it exist. Because ixperiencitness is a [[continuum concept]] even the worst ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths will grade over to more positive ixperiencitness groupings of awarepaths, thus with the possibility of producing more positive awarepaths. There is also the situation where any possible [[externapath]] can be applied to any [[itobody]]. So, if an itobody is producing an awarepath that is in a grouping of awarepaths defined as an [[unjust ixperiencitness grouping of awarepaths]] it would seem like improving the externapath ([[sensepath]] and [[enviropath]]) would increase the positiveness of the awarepath produced. It would then take an [[itobrain]] that no matter how good the externapath applied to it was, would still produce terrible (unjust) awarepaths for the total ixperiencitness grouping to be undesirable. It would not only have to be to one itobrain that produced that ixperiencitness but it would have to be the case that no matter what externapath was applied to what itobrain (producing a particular ixperiencitness) they would all have to produced the undesired awarepaths.
	~~[[Argument for just ixperiencitness groupings]]~~

	No god is necessary to make decisions producing cosmic justice. Humans can make informed decisions about which awarepaths are better than others when it come to suffering and justice.		No god is necessary to make decisions producing cosmic justice. Humans can make informed decisions about which awarepaths are better than others when it come to suffering and justice.

			[[Argument for just ixperiencitness groupings]]